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26 February 2007 @ 12:43 am
Read-Rec-Review returns! Plus, bonus poll.  
So it's only been three months, let's do another one of these. Props to auronlu for the original idea.

Read, Review, Recommend


Read a story lately and liked it, but didn't have time or couldn't think of anything to say as feedback? Now's your chance. Had a story on your reading list for awhile with no time to read it? Now's the time to jump in, and make sure to review when you're done. Don't have anything more to say than, "Hey, I liked this"? No problem. If you have the time or inclination to say more, go for it, but don't feel like you have to leave detailed feedback in order to participate. Part of the point of this exercise is to get used to the idea of leaving comments of any length.

The other point? Developing the recommendation habit. Once you've read and reviewed, if you want to share your find, come back and comment to this post with a link. No need to go into great detail here, either, although it would be helpful to give a title and say which fandom and whether it's worksafe. And then we'll have a rec list for everyone to check out.

Also, heyheyrenay and I were discussing this post (found via metafandom) and it brought up some issues about leaving feedback that inspired the following poll:


Poll #935324 Feedback poll

Do you like getting feedback on fic?

Yes
16(88.9%)
I don't really care
2(11.1%)
No
0(0.0%)
No, and I disallow comments on my fics
0(0.0%)
Other (see comments)
0(0.0%)

What kind of feedback do you like?

Detailed concrit -- bring on the tl;dr!
0(0.0%)
Short comments, positive and negative
0(0.0%)
Positive comments only
0(0.0%)
"I read this story" -- just some acknowlegement that someone is reading
0(0.0%)
I don't like getting feedback
0(0.0%)
Other (see comments)
2(11.1%)

When you receive feedback, do you respond to it?

Always
8(44.4%)
Sometimes, if I have time
1(5.6%)
Sometimes, if I feel like the comment is asking for a reply
5(27.8%)
Sometimes, under some other circumstance which I will explain in comments
4(22.2%)
Never
0(0.0%)

Do you leave feedback on the stories you read?

Yes
4(22.2%)
Sometimes (explain in comments)
14(77.8%)
No
0(0.0%)

Are you more likely to leave feedback for an author that you know is likely to respond to it?

Yes, it matters a lot to me.
2(11.1%)
It's nice if they respond but it's not a signifcant factor.
10(55.6%)
No, I don't care if they respond.
6(33.3%)

 
 
 
irajustira on February 26th, 2007 07:18 pm (UTC)
Ho ho! heyheyrenay was unwise enough to point me this way! I'll have recs and such in a bit, but for the moment I am dutifully disclosing about my poll.

Yes, I love getting feedback. I am a feedback whore. To bring this around to that metafandom post you linked to: yes, a huge part of why I love feedback is just to know that someone is reading, that what I write has an audience. This is less of a problem in the FF fandom, where so far everything I've written has gotten at least some feedback -- you guys rock. In my other primary fandom, though, I tend to write rarer pairing or pairings that are really damn obvious from canon and theoretically well-liked on popular -- and neither kind of story gets feedback, not even the latter. This sucks! I don't write for an audience in the sense that I don't bend what I write to suit what I think readers would enjoy more/conform to fandom standards/whatever. I'd write (and have written) whether anybody read my work or not. Additionally, whether or not a story would be popular in fandom bears absolutely no relation to whether or not I'd actually write it.

However, I sure as hell post for an audience. No shame here! I post to share my ideas and hopefully bring people enjoyment, and of course I want to hear about it! It would be super awesome if everyone left feedback with all kinds of crit and meta discussion all the time, but since that pretty much won't ever happen, it still feel awesome just to know that somebody read it. I admit to wanting more, though -- I want to know if my story did anything. My personal holy grail of writing achievement (or achievement in any creative medium) is being able to evoke an emotional response. If people respond to something I wrote, it helps let me know whether I achieved that part at all. If people don't respond, then I assume I failed.

Well, okay, I talked too much again. IN SUMMARY: I post for an audience, so of course it rocks to know whether or not I have an audience. However, for me feedback isn't just about that. I want to know if I provoked any kind of reaction, and yes, I'm looking for concrit, too.

... I guess I already explained my answers to the second question, which were crit, short positive/negative, and/or acknowledgment.

When I receive feedback, YES, I respond to it! This goes for art, too. Even if it's something as simple as "Thanks for the comment". I try to respond to each comment individually, to say something specifically responding to the commentor's thoughts. The only times I don't respond are when I don't check my messages for a while and forget/delete them by mistake ._.

Leaving feedback on stories I read!

I TRY. OH LORD DO I TRY. These days I guess my average feedback-to-no-feedback ratio is about 60%, while my overall feedback-left total is very low. I blame this on several factors.
1. I concrit a lot. I don't have TIME to crit as well as I'd like to on everything.
2. I read too much (this takes my other fandoms into account). I run a newsletter, so I have to skim almost everything for spoilers/rating and often end up having to read the entire thing (thankfully this basically only applies to drabbles). Even if I just left quick notes on everything, it would get overwhelimg. Hello work, school, sleep, and general non-fandom life!
3. I read too little (this applies to FF fandom in particular). I'm shy about venturing outside rec lists for fear of badfic. I've been trying to do that less, and of course I read everything I can (without spoiling myself) in ff_100. But still, the end result is that I don't read much fic, even though I WANT to read more, so my overall contribution turns out to be a smallish sum.

In the end, though, I have no excuse. I should respond more. I am a hypocrite and I admit this ._.

Authors responding to my comments. Well, honestly it doesn't factor into my decision to comment or not, but it does factor into GLEE if they do respond. I love authors responding to my comments. ESPECIALLY concrit -- I want to know if I did okay with my crit at least as much as I want to know if I did okay with my stories.

OKAY DONE EXPLAINING. More tl;dr on commenting in general to come. Plus a rec, I hope >.>



KJ: ffx2 - paineowlmoose on February 27th, 2007 08:00 am (UTC)
Yay recs. :)

I think I am with you on wanting feedback for more than just "yes, I read this." I like th provoke a reaction, and it's very satisfying to know what that reaction is. I mean, it's not like I'd *turn down* "I read this"-style reviews, but they do leave me wanting more.

"I read this." "And..... ?!?!"